Lifeline with Craig Roberts Podcast

Source: Lifeline with Craig Roberts (KFAX) |By Craig Roberts

This podcast featuring Executive Director of TURN Mark Toney aired September 15th 2026

Craig: I want to get your response  to the failure of the California Legislature to pass SB 492 and PG&E’s answer that their financial risk to harden their infrastructure results is way too much for lenders and investors, so they will hold off on that.

Mark: Just because PG&E can’t get what it wants, they can’t just pick up their toys and go home.  I told their executives that they need to spend less money burying lines underground (which is extremely expensive and takes an extremely amount of time) and do what Edison has done by insulating overhead power lines.  It is just as safe and costs one-fifth, and can be done five times faster than burying the lines.

Craig: why isn’t PG&E insulating the lines and reducing the immediate risk of fires?  There is no sense of urgency.

Mark: Shareholder returns. The more money they invest in capital investments, the more they can get in returns.  Returns is not the only thing; we need safety.  If you don’t have safety, lenders charge a higher interest rate because of the risk, and you and I pay the higher interest rate.  What we are saying is reduce the risk as quickly and inexpensively as possible, so we have less of these shutoffs and wildfire disasters.

Mark: Please ask your listeners to call (916) 445 2841; this is the phone number that the Governor’s office has to make public comments on bills.  Ask your listeners to call this number and urge him to sign SB 905 and the other six TURN affordability bills.  They know what these bills are and we’ve been working with them since January.  The Governor’s office needs to know that your listeners come from all over California.  

Craig: this is a comment line set up with the Governor’s office  and believe it or not, these calls matter.  We have learned that each call represents hundreds of people who want to make a difference.

 
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